were did you get the pics
were did you get the pics
If it has Angel threaded feedneck... I just don't know if I'll ever stop wetting myself. Please have Angel feedneck threads, please please please!
huh? why is an angel threaded feedneck so important?
Styg
Sometimes It's Good to be EVIL
Sorry. It has SP/ICD threaded feednecks. It's close to Angel but not quite the same. 'Some' Angel feednecks may thread in, though it is not recommended.Originally Posted by warbeak2099
Rumor has it some peopel threw some paint out of these over the weekend... whats the scoop?
Hows it work, whats it do, will it slice bread?
Styg
hmmm... wait its an electro... it does the same all the other electros do.. just in a different shell...
Well, hows the New/old valve work?
Because I'd want to put my RPG warp adapter on it so I can run my Qloader into a 90* warp elbow instead of the awkward Qloader elbow.Originally Posted by StygShore
But alas, according to Manike that cannot be... I'm still going to buy this gun lol.
I'm just back to say that I like it. Again.
Originally Posted by SpecialBlend2786
I will second that. I look forward to seeing and very possibly owning one. This is the first thing I have considered purchasing new in a long time. I am going to wait until after the initial wave and see how they perform first though.
I've decided this will be my reward for getting off of mandatory PT. Hey now, I didn't know we were supposed to do curl ups... I thought we had to do as many SIT UPS as we could in 2 minutes. But anyhoo, next PFA if I pass, this is my prize lol.
I got to play around with my friend's (AO:who am i?) new custom annod emag. he got it off ebay for 500$. Everything looked awesome, but I noticed the battery pack was very wobbly and I didn't expect that. Are they usually like that? he had the screw tightened up all the way and everything. Otherwise the gun was awesome! peace.
-don miguel
Take a chunk of old bolt bumper and put it slide it between the gun and the pack.Originally Posted by don miguel
"The Few Who Do Are The Envy Of The Many Who Only Stand And Watch"
Alway Remember *343*
Si vis pacem, para bellum
umm completely wrong thread?Originally Posted by don miguel
so any word on how it opperates? Im assuming an inline popet like the onyx?
onyx? can i get a link to that plz?
You might know it as the mummy..Originally Posted by warbeak2099
I dont know if that thread says it but it has since been released, they where only selling limtied numbers at events and i dont know if retailer have them yet..but i held one at MAO..and omy is it light and comfy..like a timmy and matrix combined...but the cut the wiegh in half..it riddic..didnt get to see it shoot but theres a vid..its a nice gun and works prety much like a tippman...http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1737116
Oh that thread says those might be prototype pics.but they are not that is what the final product looks like and its just a secksi in person.
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Wow that's pretty sweet. Really expensive though. The Mini seems like a great gun also, and it's half the price.
It's called overseas manufacturing.Originally Posted by superfreakmabsta
Sorry, I'm old
It's also called NPS is a huge company and can mass manufactor crap for pennies. But yea, overseas too.Originally Posted by RoadDawg
Still, if the gun shoots well I'm buying one.
It doesn't matter if the company is big or not. It's all location of manufacturing. It is a simple fact that most things are cheaper to make overseas then in the U.S.Originally Posted by warbeak2099
"My friend this..." and "My friend that..."Originally Posted by don miguel
How on earth did you get so many friends? And why do they seem to have every gun in the world? And why eBay? Are there no local pro shops? Do they not use any B/S/T forums?
Autocockers are the greatest markers ever made.
~The greatest BACKUP markers to AUTOMAGS!!
Only temporary, get'n a new sig soon.
I buy firearms made in the US that cost less than $500 - why is that cheap for a paintball marker? We have simply accepted higher prices than we should have.Originally Posted by RoadDawg
"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess
Nice New England Firearms make several under that price. The Ruger 10/22 is well below (not sure if either are US built or European). Mossberg and Remington both have several below that number.Originally Posted by RogueFactor
I buy a $900 lawn mower every 4-5 years, that's cheaper then a number of paintball guns and a lawn mower takes a lot more to build.Originally Posted by Lohman446
heres an interesting mini concept
imagine a speedball series wherein
the players were required to install tournament provided electronic packs
Yep, that would be very easy to do, as would having one set up for PSP play, one set up for NPPL, one for NXL, one for rec play etc.Originally Posted by doc_Zox
Then you can simply swap foregrips rather than have to go through and adjust all your settings...
You can be dense when you want to, and I know you are far smarter than that. I was throwing out a comparison, a firearm is similiar in a lot of ways to a paintball marker. If anything one could have considered a tolerance issue from an air system over a firearm, but you had to go into something rather meaningless. I'm not debating that $500 is a comparatively good price for a paintball marker, but to those who say "wow, how do they get this so cheap?" are ignoring some pretty obvious points. Is it cheaper than we are used to? Yeh. Is it relatively cheap compared to other things of comparable size, materials and complexity that are manufactured? Not at all. Now, can we easily justify the prices? Yeh, niche marketting (even in the "big boy" paintball manufacturers) for instance. But it does not have to be that expensive to manufacture a paintball marker.Originally Posted by RogueFactor
Why do you see plants closing down and moving to Mexico? Cheaper labor to do the same job. Why pay $20/hour when you can pay $10/hour (or less)? Here is a challenge for you. Go to ANY Disney company retail store and find something that is made in the U.S. In the many times I've tried, I've only found a handful of items. Reason being it costs more for labor here in the US, then say China.Originally Posted by Lohman446
For your firearm example: There is more of a market for firearms then paintball. The larger the market, the lower the costs can go. Any basic Economics class will teach you that.
Also depending on the style you go with, a firearm (rifle/handgun) aren't all that complicated. While pball markers aren't exactly tough either, the market isn't as large plus everyone is all about C'N'C milling, stuff you don't see on many rifles/handguns and if you do, the price is higher.
Another example is look at a basic motorcycle vs a OC Choppers bike. It is cheaper to make more then one. Example being it is cheaper (per item) to make 1000 then it is to make 100 items. Rogue could tell you first hand about this.
Originally Posted by RoadDawg
Oh.. niche marketing that I referred to. Any basic economic class could have taught you what I was referring to without having to dumb it down to the "its cheaper to build 1000 than it is one". I still maintain that $500 for something the size and complexity of a paintball marker is not cheap.
Ruger makes severalOriginally Posted by RogueFactor
I missed it. I did not address it withOriginally Posted by RogueFactor
Could have sworn I addressed it.Is it relatively cheap compared to other things of comparable size, materials and complexity that are manufactured? Not at all.
Originally Posted by RogueFactor
So you are implying that todays "high end" markers use a substantially different method of production than low end?