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    Hypothesis on Emancipator frame implementation

    So, I know they're not out yet but I am hoping to get one (https://automags.org/forums/showthrea...0&page=1&pp=30)

    Couple of issues have cropped up from this thread:

    1) For the 'sleeper' LPR to work, you need to use a modded CP ASA underneath. I want to run my warp, which would obviously have to go between the ASA and the bottom of the frame. I want to come up with a way to implement this which will make it possible to remove the warp for cleaning without having to fiddle with replacing o-rings constantly.

    2) I currently use a Flatline on a dovetail mount. I'm guessing it will probably not be possible to do a sleeper LPR with this setup - I may have to go to a screw in tank instead, might not be any way around it.

    3) I want to run my intellifeed cable out of the grip frame - do you think the MSV-2 will come back enough to press the switch closed for the intellifeed?

    I know at least one or two people have a prototype in their hands that they can hopefully experiment with to answer #3.. the other two have me a little stumped right now.
    Last edited by Shirow; 09-01-2009 at 02:16 PM.
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    for #1 the easiest way I can think of would be to drill the warp mount & recess a oring into it the same way you do the cp direct mount. Of course theres the oring issue. But couldnt you remove the warp from the other end of the warp bracket. Leaving the bracket in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cougar20th
    for #1 the easiest way I can think of would be to drill the warp mount & recess a oring into it the same way you do the cp direct mount. Of course theres the oring issue. But couldnt you remove the warp from the other end of the warp bracket. Leaving the bracket in place.
    Maybe.. I'm using Luke's back-mounted warp bracket which is a little thicker than the usual bracket so that may be easier (or not) to deal with.

    I can remove the warp from the other end, but if I get shot in the bottom of the grip frame or get splattered, I like to remove the bracket to clean all the paint out. Might just be something I don't do too often.

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    Does the Flatline have two outputs?
    I think you'd need to fabricate a gas-thru block like this --> https://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=243138
    Connect one output to the valve and the other to the block. Otherwise, you'd need a t-connector of some sort

    For the intellifeed, you might need to attach some sort of pin to the back of the msv lever to close the switch. Like BigEvil pointed out, the switch itself could also act as a little bit of a spring return to the MSV as a result too.

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    No, I don't believe it does have two outputs. That gas-thru block might work, maybe someone will come up with one for this frame.. that'd be nice

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    The easist way to go with a flatline is to just forget the sleeper mod and mount the LPR externally similar to this


    Might have to add a T fitting to the Flatline to make an extra port.

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    Check out this link to an MCB thread... I would buy some but each end user setup would be different.
    https://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=243138

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    You could mount the warp on the top of the ASA (Warp-ASA-Frame) and get longer screws to hold everything in place. It works, I've done it before. It'll drop the Warp down by another inch so you'll have to compensate with a longer feed tube unless you have enough slack. Only thing is, you have to really German torque it down or any movement will crack the seal between the frame and ASA. Same thing will happen if you sandwich the warp between the 2 (frame-warp-ASA). My frame never stripped out so it should be fine for the long haul.

    Another setup I had used a macro fitting that went through the bottom of a drop I drilled out and screwed into the bottom of a pnume frame. You'll need a regulator with dual outputs for that to work or just use a t-fitting but the t-fitting makes it look all bulky.

    I used the gauge port and mounted the gauge on the ASA of the marker, worked out well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigEvil
    The easist way to go with a flatline is to just forget the sleeper mod and mount the LPR externally similar to this


    Might have to add a T fitting to the Flatline to make an extra port.
    yeah, that is the easy way but I don't like it... I'd probably rather just get a screw in and skip the flatline if that was my only option. I think gassing through the dovetail mount might work it's just potentially a bit dangerous if it's not all locked down tight and gassed up.

    do you know how the LPR is attached in that pic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirow
    do you know how the LPR is attached in that pic?
    It's screwed into a 90* air fitting.

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