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    KAM Designs M86 Run #2

    KAM Designs M86 Run #2

    It appears there is enough interest in these to be able to do another Run
    Gloss Black


    Dust Black


    Raw


    Trigger, grip panels & screws included but not shown
    All parts will be anodized to match.

    Specs:
    • AGD Spec where it counts.
    • 86 degree (CCM based shape)
    • Mounting for Fabco MSV-2 & clippard MPA-3
    • Tapped for Sleeper LPR mount Capable. The frame will be tapped 1/8NPT on the bottom but. You will have to modify the MSV-2 & its mounting plate. It will not come modified.
    • Frame accepts 2X emag trigger magnets above the forward trigger stop.
    • Can be used on twistlock guns or non twistlock.
    • Sear release hole for use on pnuemags.
    • AGD Saftey compatable. (Safetey NOT Included)
    • All Stainless Steel screws/pins
    • Trigger included, Forward & back stop setscrews.
    • Grip Panels included.


    OPTION:
    This run I will allow the buyer to chose if they want "AO ARMY" Engraved on there frame. It will be in the same location as the "BEO Mafia" on this frame. On both sides. It will be in the same font as the AO ARMY jerseys are.
    It will be a additional fee. Going to the machinist for setup.
    That fee will be $30


    Other custom engraving is available but there will be a minimum number needed to be ordered. And price will need to be determined on complexity. Custom engraving is not available on orders of 1 frame.

    Now the specifics.
    As soon as I have enough spots filled I will have these started.

    Pre-order is only open for 1 month.

    Price will be $200 CLOSED


    Your choice of finish.
    Dust Black, Gloss Black or Raw (no discount for raw)

    $100 Payment to secure your frame due now.
    Absolutely No refunds. Unless the project falls thru then full refund will be made.
    $100 upon completion. Add $30 if engraving option is chosen.

    Time frame to Completion: TBD upon preorder finish & shop availability

    Post then PM me for payment info.
    Include: Both in PM & Payment notes: Your Address, your screen-name, Which forum, Your finish preference. Also please include M86 Run #2

    We need to fill a minimum of 10 Spots for these to be started.

    Spots
    1) Swiss Cheese: Gloss Black: AO ARMY: Deposit: $100 (extra grips & extra trigger gloss)
    2) Knownothingmags: Raw: AO ARMY: Deposit: Paid in Full
    3) Mole1119: Gloss Black: Deposit: $Paid in full
    4) RT Lover: Gloss Black: Deposit: $100
    5) maverick13: Gloss Black: Deposit: $100 (extra grips & extra trigger raw)
    6) Barkingspider: Dust Black: Deposit: Paid in full
    7) fierymartal: Gloss Black: Deposit: Paid in Full
    8) soulcoffin: Gloss Black: Deposit: Paid in Full
    9) goin5150: Gloss Black: AO ARMY: Deposit: $130
    10) Rschoi_75: raw: AO Army: Deposit: Paid in Full
    11) hawaiianking: Gloss Black: Deposit: $100
    12) OPBN: Raw: Deposit: Paid in Full
    13) Blamtro: Dust Black: Deposit: $100
    14) alpha_q_up23: Dust Black: Deposit: Paid in Full
    15) Sandman: Gloss Black: Deposit: Paid in Full
    16) Donut SD: Gloss Black: Deposit: Paid in Full
    17) Levi: Raw: Deposit: Paid in full
    18) Levi: Raw: Deposit: Paid in full
    19) Knownothingmags: Raw: Deposit: Paid in Full
    20) Cripes2: Gloss Black: Deposit: Paid in Full
    21) keiko_819: Gloss Black: Deposit: $100
    22)

    I am NOT limiting the production run. As many that are ordered will be made. Possibly some extras but no guarantees there.



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    Interested pming you.

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    I want one with ao army on it too. raw please.
    will get cash soon to you, please pm me if I miss paying you,
    got into a car accident and im really not all here yet.
    My sydarm weighs less than yours!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by knownothingmags View Post
    I want one with ao army on it too. raw please.
    will get cash soon to you, please pm me if I miss paying you,
    got into a car accident and im really not all here yet.
    Oh damn hope your ok. Adding you to my lists.

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    I will take two, gloss black please.

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    One gloss black for me.

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    Replied to everyone.

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    Put my name on a dust black please. Let me know where to send deposit. Thank you for offering it up again.

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    Could you please do a thin or slim frame. Something with the width of what CCM does. If so i would buy one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manwe33 View Post
    Could you please do a thin or slim frame. Something with the width of what CCM does. If so i would buy one.
    If I were to do that it would not be Pneumatics compatible. The parts just would not fit.

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    Swiss Cheeze - I sent you a PM, lets just say I had a little botch trying to send my deposit for these frames.

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    Because I've never seen the CCM slim frame, how thick is it? Does the CCM thin compare to the stock CF AGD frames or are you talking even thinner than that?, Just to help me visualize, is the M86 comparable thickness to another mag frame? Considering where all the in-spec stuff is on the frame, some patience and a belt sander could probably get you down to a thinner frame with a raw one and a little work if you're handy with the tools?

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    PM'ing!

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    Updated the list.

    I never wuld have thought we would be 2/3 there in 24 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrome View Post
    Because I've never seen the CCM slim frame, how thick is it? Does the CCM thin compare to the stock CF AGD frames or are you talking even thinner than that?, Just to help me visualize, is the M86 comparable thickness to another mag frame? Considering where all the in-spec stuff is on the frame, some patience and a belt sander could probably get you down to a thinner frame with a raw one and a little work if you're handy with the tools?
    I dont know the thicknes of a ccm thin. My best guessis 1/2". Anyone want to verify that?

    M86 is the same thickness as magnus m90, rpg chimera and others.I believe that number is 3/4" without grips but I would have to check the files on monday to verify.

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    Pm'ed you on beo

    And happy bday
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    Thanks for the info! I just took a ruler to the frames I have, and here is what I found:

    AGD CF frame (and the metal frames just like it): 1/2" thick, 1-1/8" with stock plastic grip panels, 1-1/2" at widest with AGD rubber grips.

    AGD ULE Emag frame: 3/4" thick, 1-1/8" with either stock or old style Luke's aluminum panels.

    Dye 45 single trigger frame: 3/4" thick, no panels to test with.

    So, unless you're going to build up some fairly thick rubber grips or something, panel grips on a 1/2" frame is going to be REALLY svelte. Looks like the overall average ends up being just over an inch however you want to divide it up.

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    Does anybody have a completed sleeper set up on these yet? Pictures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by river031403 View Post
    Does anybody have a completed sleeper set up on these yet? Pictures?
    Let me me cut up one this weekend. Then ill moint everything. It wont be functional. I dont have asa and wont be cutting my fabco.

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    Sorry if I'm just not remembering seeing it in the original thread, but I read that the frame can take emag magnets above the trigger. Does the included trigger have a magnet (or a place for one) in it, or would that be something that would have to happen custom from somewhere else?

    Also, I'm kind of thinking about getting in on this order. I really have no need/interest in a pneu setup. Could a frame be made without the sear release hole drilled? Would just be another place to have to dig paint/dirt out of at some point with it being there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrome View Post
    Sorry if I'm just not remembering seeing it in the original thread, but I read that the frame can take emag magnets above the trigger. Does the included trigger have a magnet (or a place for one) in it, or would that be something that would have to happen custom from somewhere else?

    Also, I'm kind of thinking about getting in on this order. I really have no need/interest in a pneu setup. Could a frame be made without the sear release hole drilled? Would just be another place to have to dig paint/dirt out of at some point with it being there.
    The frames will accept emag magnets. They are not included.

    All frames come with the sear releas hole. To make it otherwise means custom and more cost. The hole is pretty handy on non pnue setups. I know one of my valves has a sticky on,off so otherwise i would hsve to remove the body to get the valve out.

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    Ok spent alittle time doing something painfull. Cutting one of the frames I was going to keep for myself. I had no intention of modding it but felt you all needed a real demonstration of how to modify these for sleeper mods.

    Place fabco switch in the upper two mounting holes. Mark frame at bottom of the switch. Remove the switch and cut along the line & the back edge of the cavity. Removing the lower mounting screw. File slowly until lpr clears.
    I did this using nothing more then a hacksaw blade and a file.


    Tickler mounted and fabco mounted. You will have to cut the arm of the fabco down as nessesary. I did not as those parts belong on my M90 gun. You may also need to flip the arm on the fabco so that the air inlets are on the top with 90 degree fittings. Youll have to play some to find the exact setup.


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    FYI - you guys should realize that if Cougar20th says it's going to fit, it's going to fit !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigEvil View Post
    FYI - you guys should realize that if Cougar20th says it's going to fit, it's going to fit !!
    I understand a rendering only goes so far to make people comfortable so I am also willing to cut up perfectly good product to make sure everyone is happy.

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    Hey Keith,
    I'll take the last spot. I'm sure I'll get around to using this one too.

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    Ill take one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cougar20th View Post
    I understand a rendering only goes so far to make people comfortable so I am also willing to cut up perfectly good product to make sure everyone is happy.
    should have had me print it
    considering the cost that it has costed you
    facepalm

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    Pming

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    Im not going to be limiting the run. The preorder will be open until March 7. Which is what I originally put in the info. I never dreamed that it would hit the 10+ this fast otherwise I would have done shorter. But I feel it would be wrong to change the end time and possibly eliminate people.
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    Good !

    We're sure to get our frames !

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