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    Quote Originally Posted by BLachance75 View Post
    Every time I see you post about the next project I will always vote pump kits.
    I know that's why I LOLed.

    I was being facetious, I know what's next.

    I hear you on pump kits, I just don't see them happening this year with the work I already have designed and in line...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apathetic_Chaos View Post
    My vote is on/off ASA
    That's on the agenda but not designed yet, and a little ways down the list.

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    Well since you’re on a grip frame kick I guess you could make a rail less grip frame with built in pump kit.
    The user formally known as Lancecst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLachance75 View Post
    Well since you’re on a grip frame kick I guess you could make a rail less grip frame with built in pump kit.
    That's interesting..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLachance75 View Post
    Well since you’re on a grip frame kick I guess you could make a rail less grip frame with built in pump kit.
    I second everything in this

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    And since I’m making the request, it has to be the shape of the Mini Vert.

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    I cosign Mr. Lachance's requests. Pump Uni-Frame FTW

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    It's interesting, but I have too many commitments on my plate already to R&D pump kits. I need to crank out a bunch of stuff so I can take some time to build a new shop so I can expand. R&D drains time I can't afford at the moment so I have to go with stuff that is already designed or at the least already has the engineering worked out.

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    Name:  VASA Final Longer.JPG
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    I started prototyping on the LPR-VASA and got to thinking I should perhaps make them without the LPR port too, just just checking if there's any interest at all?

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    My current mag project will probably end up going Pneu...if/when I do, this type of VASA setup would be the one for me since it'll give me more drop forward/rail options. (Looks great with the deflator setup BTW.)

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    The more I study the setup, I'm leaning towards shortening it some (off the top). I had it originally designed that way then switched to the longer version here.

    The LPR makes a nice stop for the left hand..

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    I think this is the one.

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    Anyone for Angled VASA's?
    Drilled and tapped on both left and right sides so it can be mounted forward or reverse angles.
    2 screw RTP type mount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luke View Post
    Anyone for Angled VASA's?
    Drilled and tapped on both left and right sides so it can be mounted forward or reverse angles.
    2 screw RTP type mount.

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    Yes Please!

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    Or we could keep it simple. >>

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    This could also include a LPR option.

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    I'm all for the angled option.
    Thanks,
    Jeremy

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    I definitely will pick up the VASA for the LPR mounting option. They look slick.

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    The angled would look better, but ive never held an angled grip in my hands, not if itd be more comfortable than a straight grip. Hard choice...

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    I think I have decided to go with the new version without the flat sides for the air fitting and LPR. It's a mainly for inventory control. I do have 3 of these available today if anyone is interested.
    I am going to machine new brass fittings for my LPR's as an option for when an o-ring seal is not viable.

    The angled VASA will come in two styles, with or without the LPR port. The angled version will come standard with two side ports so it can be mounted forward or reverse. The industry standard for the angle on foregrips are typically 15* but I switched my 'Three Piece Foregrips' to 10* and no one has complained so I will follow suit with 10* on these.

    The straight VASA will also come in two styles with or without the LPR port. The straight version will be available with one side port only.

    This will NOT be available for the Automag with wings and a single screw mount.

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    Just an idea that I think would make the VASA look more balanced aesthetically.

    Let me know if this is distracting from the purpose of this thread, or just otherwise anoying and I'll take it down.


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    Laku, I hear ya. I've gone back and forth on that myself. I do find your drawing unbalanced because the airports aren't centered in that detail, my eye goes right to it actually. Plus I think it might look worse once assembled with air fittings and LPR(?)

    When the VASA is pictured by itself the unbalanced look is somewhat exaggerated, but when fully assembled with foregrip and on a marker it blends in better. Also it creates some problems with my fixturing for manufacturing.

    I don't think there is a perfect answer, as there's a trade-off either way. Maybe there's a compromise between the two ideas, I'll play with it some but no promises.


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    I hear you. It's to everyone's own preferences, like always.

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    There's no way to completely balance or make symmetrical with the various constraints, but I can do this (??)
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    Seems more balanced to my eye.

    Design is a tricky thing, small nuances and unconscious expectations. You can easily spend more hours on polishing something to get over those last 5%, than you did on getting to 95%.
    At Least that's my experience on 3D design work on vfx/commercial front.

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    Thanks for the little nudge to make the change, I wasn't 100% happy with it myself.

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    Is there a price/timeframe on the angled vasa with no LPR port? I would love to get my hands on one asap.

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    Should be available soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luke View Post
    Should be available soon.
    Awesome, thank you, can't wait to get one.

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    LcMP90 - P90 LPR - VASA

    Angled with an Lpr port is my choice.


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    Both standard and angled VASA's are completed minus the LPR ports.
    Tomorrow I make fixtures and machine a few of each.
    Pretty stoked to finish this up and move on to the Z2's.

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