ProLine AutoResponse Frames

[Walking Stick]

Can anyone tell me about the ProLine AutoResponse frames? I've been around for awhile but never heard or seen this frame before. What's so special with it that it competes in price with used Z-grips? Are they reliabe triggers? Super heavy pull? Anything. Thanks.

[BigEvil]

They fire twice per pull, once on the pull, once on the release

[Frizzle Fry]

Very long trigger pull, fires on the pull AND on the release. Stiff, lots of side-to-side slip, and the trigger sits at a weird angle when not in use.

They're unique, and cool in a goofy sort of way, but they're not legal at most fields and frankly they're just not that comfortable to use.

[Dend78]

Very long trigger pull, fires on the pull AND on the release. Stiff, lots of side-to-side slip, and the trigger sits at a weird angle when not in use.

They're unique, and cool in a goofy sort of way, but they're not legal at most fields and frankly they're just not that comfortable to use.

awesome ill take 12

[Frizzle Fry]

awesome ill take 12

I'm just saying if you put one next to a Benchmark single frame (and the milling is almost identical so really the only way to tell them apart is the cant of the ProLines trigger) it's just not very comfortable. They're unique in their function, but they're nothing like a standard trigger. I've got an AR-framed Micromag that's exceptionally fun, but every time I let someone else shoot it I get negative feedback on how weird the trigger is.

[athomas]

The secret to the autoresponse frame is not to try to fire too fast. If you can manage a steady 6 pulls per second, the gun will shoot 12 balls per second. That's pretty awesome for a purely mechanical marker. If you can get 7 or 8 pulls per second, you'll scare women and children. lol. This frame changed the rules of tournament play back in the early 90's.

[Konigballer]

They are unique, and they're coming up for sale alot these days. Makes me wan't to get one!

[XM15]

They were banned from tournaments instantly and just about every field. The only one I ever actually have seen in person is the one Tom Kaye had on his automag when he would play at Paintball Sam's big games. It was very impressive back then.

[Konigballer]

I bet you could use an AutoResponse framed Mag on almost any field nowadays. We're in the paintball era were every kid has an ion that can do 15bps out of the box. The AR frame is kind of quaint by comparison. I can guarantee I could use it on any of the main TN fields I've played at, where they only take notice of you if you bonus ball kids, or blatanly rip up the field at 20bps+. No one would care.

[Sumthinwicked]

i have to agree with baller and if its not allowed at ur field u can flip it easy enough ... to peeps like me

[Ratzo]

I'd like to pick up an AR for one of my Mags.
My buddy wanted the DoubleTrouble trigger for his VM68 back in the day.

[Smokee_2_7]

If a picture is worth a thousand words, than a video has got to be worth a least one long post!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHg2wLoXYkE

[Lomarandil]

How much are these worth?

I picked up a mag meaning to snag the body and some small parts, and part out the frame.. asking $120, but I can't get a buyer.. Am I asking too much?

Lo

[Frizzle Fry]

How much are these worth?

I picked up a mag meaning to snag the body and some small parts, and part out the frame.. asking $120, but I can't get a buyer.. Am I asking too much?

Lo

$100 or less.

[Walking Stick]

So what valves are these compatible with? I'm assuming no RT...

Is the safety able to be replaced? It looks like the same one found on some Benchys.


Thanks for all the responses and info!

[Frizzle Fry]

So what valves are these compatible with? I'm assuming no RT...

Is the safety able to be replaced? It looks like the same one found on some Benchys.


Thanks for all the responses and info!

Classic is best. They lock up or go full auto with R/T or X. I tuned mind for single fire or controlled no-chop 22bps mech full auto!

[Smokee_2_7]

Yes, the safety is like those in Benchmark frames.

The frame will work with a retro / x valve, but not real well in 'response mode' I've dropped a retrovalve in mine with the setup in my video and its fine as long as I keep the trigger stop in there.

Carl

[Jacobd]

Another good video about these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVc7nGSWa-o

[spectre184]

IIRC they also made a version for the VM-68

[Frizzle Fry]

IIRC they also made a version for the VM-68

You're thinking of the DoubleTrouble trigger assembly for the VM. Same idea, but more crisp and short a pull, and IMO a bit more effective. I have one in my VMX.

[MAGslinger]

So you could pull once, and let go a paintball, then 'hold' the trigger and release for the next game elimination right?

[Lomarandil]

Yup!

[Sumthinwicked]

good for sniping in some instants nice double tap to LOL

[MAGslinger]

Damn, I need to get me one of these