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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrate Jim View Post
    This cannot be good:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...a212a9f9c&ei=9

    Building "Green Energy" is a good thing. To begin by knocking down the foundation needed to build it with, not so good.
    It has nothing to do with "knocking down the foundation", more of partly a feel good deal to give China the money edge and partly a clear pathway for domestic green energy companies.

    Even by that article, China doesn't care what it is doing. 27% of emissions, 3 times the US in 2nd place, so there is no penalty to do that, just a hope that the green energy market could either supplant fossil fuels or have a breakthrough to surpass fossil fuels. This is an easy win for China that the US is giving them. So, for the US to win, you have to add in the directive of the Biden admin, pushing green energy development and future dominance in the marketplace.

    You have to read between the lines, 3ven moreso with poorly source and written articles like this. You can't have everything just given to you.

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    Check the Jim Crow laws and who wrote them, then tell me how your party is the party of tolerance. Same with all the civil rights laws regarding Women's and Black American rights. Check the voting records...0 democrats supported any of them.

    The proof is there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
    It has nothing to do with "knocking down the foundation", more of partly a feel good deal to give China the money edge and partly a clear pathway for domestic green energy companies.

    Even by that article, China doesn't care what it is doing. 27% of emissions, 3 times the US in 2nd place, so there is no penalty to do that, just a hope that the green energy market could either supplant fossil fuels or have a breakthrough to surpass fossil fuels. This is an easy win for China that the US is giving them. So, for the US to win, you have to add in the directive of the Biden admin, pushing green energy development and future dominance in the marketplace.

    You have to read between the lines, 3ven moreso with poorly source and written articles like this. You can't have everything just given to you.
    Did you know that Jellyfish have existed for 360 million years, despite not having a brain. I used to have hope for humanity, now I think You've destroyed that.

    Every sentence of that post is so bass ackwards that I can only conclude that it's intentional and you feel all warm and fuzzy inside now that you have contradicted reality once again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrate Jim View Post
    Did you know that Jellyfish have existed for 360 million years, despite not having a brain. I used to have hope for humanity, now I think You've destroyed that.

    Every sentence of that post is so bass ackwards that I can only conclude that it's intentional and you feel all warm and fuzzy inside now that you have contradicted reality once again.
    You see opinions as facts and facts as opinions. This is a fundamental argument that you support. Though you may not specifically say it, but because you support the GOP and everything that promote, you have internalized that idea. You literally are trying to use and confuse the plethora of topics and issues only because they are the opposite of your conservatism, the knee-jerk reaction to anything liberal, without regard to how or why it could be effective. Then, when someone comes out with a differing opinion ,that might have a better grasp on the situation, you stomp your foot because all the people, all the news sources tell you one thing and it doesn't quite mesh with it.

    Articles like that last one, while not filling dripping in partisan rhetoric, you still have to read between the lines on what it means. To a point, you have to read it like Shakespeare, in that you disregard half of what is being said as fluff, and the other half is the true meaning. Now that is my own interpretation, and I could be wrong. But I acknowledge that that is my own opinion and I could be very wrong. Not with you and others that share your and similar viewpoints. You look at it in finite terms, instead of the flowing and every changing waters of life.

    And the funniest thing is, I do not have to be right about anything, I just have to prove you wrong. Something that is quite easily done without situation, without links and with hardly any research. At most, I read something from here & ponder it for a few hours, building up what I want to say. This, this was spur of thr moment and I am still not wrong. Not because it is just my opinion, but by the fact that instead of challenging what I had to say, you go after me, to insult me. Again, that, THAT very tactic shows that you have no legs in a butt kicking contest.you want subservience to anything and everything you say, because the republican party wants and demands to rule over everyone's lives. Do as I say and not as I do. Sorry, that does not work in these United States of America.

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    I've seen videos with people stating their opinions, that from what they see happing, they don't think there will be a presidential election in 2024.

    What are your thoughts on the probability that, if they can't take Trump down and stop him, they will pull martial law ?

    What say you ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by going_home View Post
    I've seen videos with people stating their opinions, that from what they see happing, they don't think there will be a presidential election in 2024.

    What are your thoughts on the probability that, if they can't take Trump down and stop him, they will pull martial law ?

    What say you ?
    There will be an election. Trump has, so far, become the front tunnel and presumptive nominee for the ticket. Even with the ruling in Colorado, in it's best King Solomon ruling, there is no doubt that he will be on the ticket and in November 2024, we will have a repeat of 2020. Biden will win over the republican representative. What I can't predict is that in the plethora of trials that trump could prove that he had broken the laws and could be facing jail time, or at least be convicted of those crimes, which will push everything towards the SCOTUS and we will have a collective breath holding contest as we need someone anyone to make a decision.

    Sorry, call me an optimist, in that too many independent and law abiding citizens will not vote for a convicted felon regardless of how many lies trump will say to the public. Too many people follow the laws and even if they do not agree with the verdict on personal biases, that they will not let a convicted criminal preside over this country.

    The real question is, if trump does loose in 2024, will he run again, if he has not been convicted and either through laws or possible incarceration, run again? Will he able to hold it together to form even haf coherent sentences to be the oldest person to run for the presidency?

    TL;DR, trump will convicted of something, he will push and delay any of those verdicts till after election day, but still won't win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
    And John, once again, I ask you to show me how and where I am wrong, yet you never do. Your ineptitude only proves me more correct, each and every time you punt on the question.




    Well my rule is that till someone stops saying stupid things, then I will shut up. But my faith is never really tested



    Classic strawman. Don't look at me, look at everything else that the other person is doing....

    In this context, I was only talking about US history, not the world. It is far easier to confine the history lesson to the 250 years as a cojntry(or 400+ years as a colony). So if you want an in depth report on slavery, starting from first established countries/people to today, that will take a few days to create.



    You are wrong. Economies that live by one product or service, in this case slavery, are shortsighted and die quickly, as they cannot sustain changes(like supply and demand) as well as outside factors. Slavery in the ancient world was an accepted practice till it wasn't. And even as the establishment of codified countries that had a ruling bodies to govern them, slavery was never the principle of their economic systems.




    But 2 wrongs doesn't make it right. While the act of slavery was not necessarily against the rules and laws of one country does not give it a pass regardless of who's colour skin one is. One could argue that only because the white man established the commodity of slavery did those dark skinned people sell other people into slavery. And no one is trying dismiss the various repugnant act of slavery, genocide and terrorism, but it is a disservice to those acts when they are not the focus of this conversation.



    Lol... deflect much?

    No, I am merely confining this towards US history and not world history. The mere fact that I bring up and fully acknowledge that white people have done and continue to do horrible things to people that are not the same skin tone, paints me as the opposite of a racist. I want this country to accept that it has done genocides(trail of tears, and general treatment to the native peoples that were here before) and enslaved other people. That is our history, as dirty as it is. But we must accept that and move on, learning from those mistakes, not bury them and never look upon them.



    Trail of tears? Fort Pillow? Manifest Destiny? Jim Crowe laws? Fire bombing of Dresden and Tokyo? The Tuskeegee syphilis experiment?

    When you support people who ban books, outlaw gender identity, or rail against the idea of Crutucal race theory(CRT), you are perpetuating the same things as you falsely accuse me of doing. Banned books are the best books. I don't care what gender you wish to be, as you life doesn't effect me in how I live mine. The US has done horrific things to its own people, slavery is but one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by going_home View Post
    I've seen videos with people stating their opinions, that from what they see happing, they don't think there will be a presidential election in 2024.

    What are your thoughts on the probability that, if they can't take Trump down and stop him, they will pull martial law ?

    What say you ?
    Hmmn , If the courts don't somehow ( doesn't look probable ) keep Trump from runnin, I wouldn't put anything past them, but they surely don't want to Martyr him

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    Quote Originally Posted by maniacmechanic View Post
    Hmmn , If the courts don't somehow ( doesn't look probable ) keep Trump from runnin, I wouldn't put anything past them, but they surely don't want to Martyr him
    Unlike what the gop is doing, pick someone and try to pin a crime on them. The normal way you do things is to find the crime and follow it back to who and where it came from. The simple fact that, while everyone is presumed innocent, by shear dint of the odds that he will be found guilty something. Now, what I really think is that he will be found guilty of something serious but will get a nice sweetheart plea deal to avoid jail time and to quietly walk away, never to run or comment on any political office again. So basically, his time in politics will be done. Whether he takes it or not, is a good question, but I really do not see him coming out of this clean. I very much feel that someone, to save their own skin will turn on him.

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    If you really think he will give up and walk away you must've been asleep 2016 to 2020.

    What ever they charge him with, it will just go to scotus and get reversed.

    They will have to assinate him to get him to go away....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
    Unlike what the gop is doing, pick someone and try to pin a crime on them. The normal way you do things is to find the crime and follow it back to who and where it came from. The simple fact that, while everyone is presumed innocent, by shear dint of the odds that he will be found guilty something. Now, what I really think is that he will be found guilty of something serious but will get a nice sweetheart plea deal to avoid jail time and to quietly walk away, never to run or comment on any political office again. So basically, his time in politics will be done. Whether he takes it or not, is a good question, but I really do not see him coming out of this clean. I very much feel that someone, to save their own skin will turn on him.
    LMAO ,, So just attempting to prosecute the opposition has grown in vogue ,, when just accusing the enemy , and running kangaroo courts, means they are guilty ,,,,,,,,,,, seems it doesn't work that way for the leftist progressive Liberals ,,,,,,,,,

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    that last statement would make him a Martyr ,,,, they don't wanna do that

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    Quote Originally Posted by going_home View Post
    If you really think he will give up and walk away you must've been asleep 2016 to 2020.

    What ever they charge him with, it will just go to scotus and get reversed.

    They will have to assinate him to get him to go away....

    So when you threaten, nee promise to remove the courts, get rid of those forms of government, do you really think they would want to listen to those arguments? People who have lifetime positions, do not want to support a person who would remove their lifetime position.

    Plus, if there are no possible indication of malfeasance in any of the trials, then the appeals will be dismissed and the jury's rule in a conviction will be seen to. That is where you just won't believe. Because you have been told lies at every turn that this is wrong, the witch trial defense and it goes up in smoke.

    You are correct(and misread me). He will not just walk away, quietly. What he will be is forced to walk away, by threat of jail time, or if you are an absolutist, by execution from treasonous acts(trying to keep secret documents and refusing to turn them over).

    So, of you were to face, basically life in prison, if convicted, or a plea to walk away and never engage in any politics again. What would you choose, and there is no 3rd option?

    Quote Originally Posted by maniacmechanic View Post
    LMAO ,, So just attempting to prosecute the opposition has grown in vogue ,, when just accusing the enemy , and running kangaroo courts, means they are guilty ,,,,,,,,,,, seems it doesn't work that way for the leftist progressive Liberals ,,,,,,,,,
    You do realize that in order to get warrants for arrest. 1) you have to commit a crime. 2) a grand jury of normal citizens has to say yes to that warrant. 3) you have a trial and await verdict. Now, either trump & company have some really terrible lawyers to not have this thrown out before it starts, or maybe there is enough evidence to prove that he and others broke the laws.

    A kangaroo court would have been started and done with by now. A kangaroo court would not play by the laws of the country, nor would we hear about it, as it would not be public, or as public as some of these have been so far.

    So tell me how many times Biden or the White House has said anything about trump and his trials? How many times has the DOJ come out and said anything about them? None, because whomever you listen to, keeps lying to you to the truth of the matter, that your political deity has broken the laws of this country and to put him on a pedestal, they must not criticize anything he has done because having a contrary opinion is not allowed because of ideology and to hell with the truth.

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    Nobody ,,, You do realize that in order to get warrants for arrest. 1) you have to commit a crime
    That is a BS statement , Just like everything else you say ,,,,, to get a warrant ,,,, You Have to be ACCUSED of a crime
    And the progressive left has figured out, by using Mass Media and repeating the same lie over & over some folks will believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by maniacmechanic View Post
    Nobody ,,, You do realize that in order to get warrants for arrest. 1) you have to commit a crime
    That is a BS statement , Just like everything else you say ,,,,, to get a warrant ,,,, You Have to be ACCUSED of a crime
    And the progressive left has figured out, by using Mass Media and repeating the same lie over & over some folks will believe
    You see. You are the good lapdog of your betters and blame the media, the mass media. Because everyone knows that in order to get a trial, you have to ask public opinion on it through a journalist. Forget courts, forget rules. You have to break a law and then be ruled against it.

    Now, you can accuse anyone of a crime. Look at Joe and Hunter Biden. Who many accusations have been thrown their way and yet, no evidence of any crime has been committed. And before you get your panties in a bunch about Hunter living off his last name, when Donald's kids do the exact same thing.

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    The evidence against the Bidens is real and in living color and will be made manifest.

    The Democrats know he will lose so they will end up assisting in his demise so they can choose another "not Kamala Harris"...... IQ 75......

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    Here's a couple good questions for the prognosticators:

    1] Who will be Trump's VP choice

    2] Who will be the democrat presidential candidate


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    Quote Originally Posted by going_home View Post
    Here's a couple good questions for the prognosticators:

    1] Who will be Trump's VP choice

    2] Who will be the democrat presidential candidate

    It would be a low number to calculate this far out.
    1] The safe bet is it won't be anyone who voted against him in the past. That narrows the field a bit (or a lot).
    2] Perhaps Jussie Smollet or Alec Baldwin would be a more viable option than anyone currently in the field of Democrat contenders.

    The People are a fickle lot (bless their little hearts), and many of them will turn on a dime to support or attack anything that gets their attention even if it's a direct contradiction of last week's big thing that they were mad about. So, trying to see too far ahead is dependent on too many variables that change very quickly.
    Some things are easier to predict based on history. The Gov't did before, they'll do it again, and let the people pay for it just like every other time.
    Spend billions on Green New Deal.
    Green new deal goes bankrupt (it's happening now, right in front of us).
    Spend billions to bail out green companies. (coming soon)

    Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by going_home View Post
    The evidence against the Bidens is real and in living color and will be made manifest.

    The Democrats know he will ,tthey will end up assisting in his demise so they can choose another "not Kamala Harris"...... IQ 75......
    Oh, just like the evidence to prove that the election was stolen? Lololololololol......

    Last minute evidence turns only work in movies and TV. If there was any real evidence, especially for however long it has been investigated, then why hasn't anyone com3 with that smoking gun, silver bullet, golden bb? Hate to tell you, but you are in the long con. Keep telling you that they have the evidence and it is only be, tomorrow, next week, or soon and you keep buying it.

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...ca560ff1&ei=11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
    If there was any real evidence, especially for however long it has been investigated, then why hasn't anyone com3 with that smoking gun, silver bullet, golden bb? Hate to tell you, but you are in the long con. Keep telling you that they have the evidence and it is only be, tomorrow, next week, or soon and you keep buying it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by going_home View Post
    Here's a couple good questions for the prognosticators:

    1] Who will be Trump's VP choice

    2] Who will be the democrat presidential candidate
    1) it's way to early to even say. There still has to be p4imaries, as if there are more than 1 candidate, they have to decide by that. Yes, with such a lead, he would be the presumptive choice, but a lot of things can happen before he tries to turn the office into a crown.

    2) RFKJr, is running as an independent and I know no other potential candidates that have ponies up to throw their hat in the ring. While like above, it is still early, it is also a non-issue. Again lots of things can change between now and then, but the democratic party is going with the better alternative

    3) VPs? You can say the gop is really auditioning for that but let's be real. None of those lovers will win thr job, as none of them have anything more to offer the ticket. The GOP VP nominee should be a vote getter where the presidential candidate lacks. Like in 2016, trump lacks any real credibility with the evangelical, so pence was tapped to shore up that. So, other than a possible parole officer, where doesn't the presumptive lack? Other than wanting to be a dictator, dictators don't really want someone who is "gunning" for the job.


    A better question to ask is, who would you want to see the nomination go to, if trump is indisposed through judgments against him, i.e. awaiting sentencing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by going_home View Post
    Here's a couple good questions for the prognosticators:

    1] Who will be Trump's VP choice

    2] Who will be the democrat presidential candidate

    Doesn't matter , when machines control the outcome

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    And who is charge of the machines?
    I heard that in N. America, it just happens the Dominion division head is married to Roy Epps.
    I could be wrong, msm never covered it so it's difficult to back up.
    This is today...
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...aa6ddb0d&ei=49

    13 Israelis, 10 Thais, and a Filipino. No Americans.
    I've seen no sign that our administration is making any effort to have our own released, in the six weeks since, not through negotiations nor threats of bringing them out through direct action.
    Whatever happened to the concepts of "Protect our own" and "No Man left behind"?

    Look at the pro-Palestinian protests going on. I mean, blocking the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade? What does that have to do with Israel?
    It does point out one thing, while the President hasn't brought home any of the hostages, he has brought home the War.

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    So much to unpack here... sigh

    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrate Jim View Post
    And who is charge of the machines? bipartisan election boards
    I heard that in N. America, it just happens the Dominion division head is married to Roy Epps.
    I could be wrong, msm never covered it so it's difficult to back up. you are so very wrong and your attempt at sarcasm is dubious at best. As i am surr you have never watched a minute of anything close to liberal, and certainly not liberal news
    This is today...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrate Jim View Post
    13 Israelis, 10 Thais, and a Filipino. No Americans. Let's look at the big picture of hostages being released versus why no American citizens. It really doesn't matter who is released first, just that they are released.
    I've seen no sign that our administration is making any effort to have our own released, in the six weeks since, not through negotiations nor threats of bringing them out through direct action. as opposed to the constant trips back and forth to Israel from Blinken and other Admin personnel, the near daily updates from the state department and the mere fact that, while us citizens, they were taken in another sovereigncojntry, who is perpetuatinga war, and working through them, is the only way to do this. Going over the head of another country/government is no way on how to deal with a sensitive situation without an escalation of hostilities. Put simply, you don't go in, guns ablazin' and not expect things to get messy. This is one of the more moronic statementsyou'vemade.
    Whatever happened to the concepts of "Protect our own" and "No Man left behind"? so you want a soldier with every citizen in a foreign country, or do we establish a pre-crime unit to stop all the bad things before they happen?
    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrate Jim View Post
    Look at the pro-Palestinian protests going on. I mean, blocking the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade? What does that have to do with Israel? people can protest anything they want. Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't mean that it is not warranted.
    It does point out one thing, while the President hasn't brought home any of the hostages, he has brought home the War. I don't see any war happening in this country? Sure, go back 3-4 years where peolle were protesting and armed unnamed governmental agencies were artesting and detaining people without warrant, possiblyeven firing upon people. But no amount of bloodshed will do anything to release the hostages any faster than what is happening now. If you had a clue diplomacy, then you wouldn'tsay something as stupid as this.
    I would want to blame the stupidity of the post on a turkey bender, cause the statements made are as smart as installing a screen door on a submarine.

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    There it is. The hyperbolic rhetoric I would expect from you.
    I knew you couldn't resist the bait.

    While I'm here, let me just cherry-pick one item:
    people can protest anything they want. Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't mean that it is not warranted.
    How is it warranted to glue yourself to the road in front of a parade that has been an American institution since 1924? Or to then deface an historic Public Library because they don't like the name?
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ne...776451924&ei=9

    "Protest" does not mean "Destroy and Disrupt". Well, unless you're throwing tea into Boston harbor, which has its own indication for the near future.
    But "warranted"? That word is synonymous with "Justified".
    I have read the words of a wise man that state "Violence is the refuge of the incompetent" which to me means that if you have to resort to tactics involving defacing and vandalizing public landmarks or pulling down statues that remind us of our heritage and where it comes from, then you're just too darn stupid to think of another way.
    This negative behavior has been increasing, as has its acceptance while justified by people like yourself who claim violence is rational.

    So yes, I do not condone the type of behavior you seem to consider warranted or justified.

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    How long before we come to this?
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...10a529c0&ei=25

    If you cannot shut off the discussion, just restrict the ability to discuss.

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