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  • xero28
    Registered Useless
    • Mar 2008
    • 1102

    #1

    Got My "Cheater" Today!!

    First off, let me tell you how cool a person ZapTheMad is. I had originally bought his Pneu-Manifold he made/sold a couple of months back. I bought it from another person here on AO, so I had never done any direct business with him. I wrote to him to tell him that I had acquired the manifold and how cool it was. He told me that he was working on a new/better design and if I sent him the old one, he'd send me the new one, no extra charges or anything. Now, momma' didn't raise no fool, so I sent back the old one and got the new one in the mail today. It took about 5 minutes to install, no modifications whatsoever to the frame. I drained about 1000 psi from my tank in a couple of minutes. Let me tell you, this thing rocks. I only had a few minutes to tinker with it since I've got both of my young girls with me and my wife is out of the house, so there will still be some fine tuning. I was able to easily walk this, and with a few more modifications (stops, possibly magnets in the trigger), I know I can get this thing to sing. Zap, thanks for all of your hard work and love of the Mag to come up with this. Those who are waiting anxiously for their Cheater will not be disappointed. I took a few photos with my phone to show what it looks like installed. The marker is obviously not gassed up in the pictures, but when it is, the trigger pin is flush up against the trigger with less than about 1-2 mm of pull required, though the safety still works perfectly. Zap put A LOT of time and thought into these. I'm using a Tippmann asa which has a built in LPR, it's a semi-sleeper. I just got the Cerberus foregrip too, but I don't know if I want to run the LPR off the front of that or what. Time will tell.



  • bizzarr1
    Registered User
    • Oct 2009
    • 2

    #2
    That is really nice...

    Where do you find those ASA's???

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    • MANN
      I am in TN. GO VOLS.
      • Apr 2006
      • 4266

      #3
      you should tap the top of that lpr/asa so you cant see the tubing.

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      • TwilightG
        www.BigEvilOnline.com

        • Mar 2007
        • 1387

        #4
        Originally posted by xero28
        I bought it from another person here on AO, so I had never done any direct business with him. I wrote to him to tell him that I had acquired the manifold and how cool it was. He told me that he was working on a new/better design and if I sent him the old one, he'd send me the new one, no extra charges or anything.
        Son of a'...
        That was really generous of him. I guess I should have held onto that longer. Now I need to get in line with everyone else

        I'm really interesting in seeing more reviews on this from other members.


        As for the Tippmann ASA, I bought it a little over a year ago on eBay for something like $20. Not sure how readily available they are now. I never got the chance to use it but I can say it's heavy. Not bad for a budget semi-sleeper-lpr

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        • xero28
          Registered Useless
          • Mar 2008
          • 1102

          #5
          Originally posted by MANN
          you should tap the top of that lpr/asa so you cant see the tubing.
          I'm not sure where the low pressure comes from though. How could I be sure it will be LP coming from the new hold and not HP? Should it just be at the same point horizontally as the current one?

          Originally posted by TwilightG
          Son of a'...
          That was really generous of him. I guess I should have held onto that longer. Now I need to get in line with everyone else

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          • gunman_2000
            Registered User
            • Sep 2008
            • 118

            #6
            wow...that does look really slick in there. I'm pretty sold on investing in one of these during the next run. The bad news is I think I might have to replace my trusty Revy.

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            • MANN
              I am in TN. GO VOLS.
              • Apr 2006
              • 4266

              #7
              Originally posted by xero28
              I'm not sure where the low pressure comes from though. How could I be sure it will be LP coming from the new hold and not HP? Should it just be at the same point horizontally as the current one?



              yep. I have pictures around here somewhere of where I modified one.

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              • Epic_Scotsman
                Registered User
                • Feb 2008
                • 183

                #8
                now lets see some vids

                I must say that is one slick set up all you need is a trip to anno for those raw parts

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                • Watcher
                  aka CavDragoneb12
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 867

                  #9
                  That ASA is the one that came with the Tippmann 98 GTA E-Bolts.

                  The E-Bolts themselves are hard to find, I'd imagine the ASAs to be even harder...

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                  • xero28
                    Registered Useless
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 1102

                    #10
                    Got my crappy cell phone video uploaded, let's see how this goes



                    I replaced the Tippmann asa and just put on a WGP LPR to see if there was any difference, I don't think I noticed too much of a difference, if any, just that it was easier to fine tune the WGP LPR. I also changed out the ULT to the standard RT on/off, I was getting some recocking issues. I don't think there's too much of a difference. I also tried to put a ball-point pen spring on the trigger rod to push the trigger back faster. Don't do it, it just hangs up and makes either the trigger or the rod stick.

                    Edit: By the way, can you hear that ringing after each shot? I think it's coming from my valve. Anyone have any idea what it might be from and if it's a problem?
                    Last edited by xero28; 10-07-2009, 11:34 PM.

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                    • Ando
                      Magusmaximus
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 4144

                      #11
                      Zap

                      Originally posted by xero28
                      Edit: By the way, can you hear that ringing after each shot? I think it's coming from my valve. Anyone have any idea what it might be from and if it's a problem?
                      Best guess is your missing your bolt bumper or like we say in the helicopter world when someone asks what the hell is that noise...we respond...It's a Huey or in this case, it's a Automag.
                      Last edited by Ando; 10-07-2009, 11:40 PM.
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                      • xero28
                        Registered Useless
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 1102

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ando
                        Zap


                        Best guess is your missing your bolt bumper or like we say in the helicopter world when someone asks what the hell is that noise...we respond...It's a Huey or in this case, it's a Automag.
                        I'm pretty sure the bumper is on there, maybe it's just worn down. I'll take a look at it in the morning.

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                        • Ando
                          Magusmaximus
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 4144

                          #13
                          I'm sure it's ok.

                          It could be that crazy front grip humming like a tuning fork after each shot
                          Last edited by Ando; 10-08-2009, 09:31 AM.
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                          • ZapTheMad
                            The local MADMAN!
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 709

                            #14
                            Awesome! Cant wait to see more




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                            No Patent Infringements needed :shooting:

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                            • Watcher
                              aka CavDragoneb12
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 867

                              #15
                              GRimm's Emag's bolt spring used to buzz/chime because it was bent slightly. Changed it for a new spring and it solved the problem...

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