*Coming Soon* Immigration Reform

[SCpoloRicker]

Oh Hai guiyze!

Whether one likes it or not, I think it is pretty likely that we will see a push for comprehensive immigration reform before the end of Obama's first term.



I'm not set on my positions on immigration, but generally speaking, I'm against a blanket amnesty but I do support some sort of path to citizenship.

So, consider this the appropriate thread to place "Them mezzzicans done take our jorbs" and "Barack HUSSEIN Obama is going to add millions of illegals to the Democratic vote with amnesty and healthcare" emails.

[Soopa Villain17]

i think we need to complete the wall , and kick all the illegals out and dont let em back in. we need to take our country back.

[going_home]

i think we need to complete the wall , and kick all the illegals out and dont let em back in. we need to take our country back.

Well done my son











One word: E-Verify









Well.......one word and one letter.











Being for legal immigration (and thus dead set against illegal immigration) is not racism.

















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[Ando]

But who's going to build your roofs and cut your grass

[DevilMan]

But who's going to build your roofs and cut your grass

well I'm sure we'd make due with what we have to work with... I'm pretty sure there are still plenty of LEGAL folks here as well as natural born citizens that know how to swing a hammer and drive a lawnmower... At least I know there is no shortage of them where I'm from.

The point to me is simple and short. ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL! That's it. End of story. And YES, it is that simple!

DM

[Soopa Villain17]

well I'm sure we'd make due with what we have to work with... I'm pretty sure there are still plenty of LEGAL folks here as well as natural born citizens that know how to swing a hammer and drive a lawnmower... At least I know there is no shortage of them where I'm from.

The point to me is simple and short. ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL! That's it. End of story. And YES, it is that simple!

DM

i couldnt have said it better myself !

[MoeMag]

But who's going to build your roofs and cut your grass

The grass could be cut by the fat kid down the street sitting on his butt playing WoW with a lip ring. His daddy could be building the roofs, but is busy living two states away, making triple overtime sleeping his 4th straight shift on a couch next to the time clock who cant get fired because of the amount of paperwork required by the union (but really because the floor manager is sleeping with his sister). All the while his momma is collecting child support from him and has been on unemployment so long that she is counted as "not employable" and not adding to the national unemployment rate.

[WUNDERWAFFEN]

Exactly. Get rid of the leaf blower gangs & give the local kids some dough to do it.

[drg]

His daddy could be building the roofs, but is busy living two states away, making triple overtime sleeping his 4th straight shift on a couch next to the time clock who cant get fired because of the amount of paperwork required by the union (but really because the floor manager is sleeping with his sister).

You must have America confused with a country that doesn't have only 12% union membership.

[Destructo6]

I'm against a blanket amnesty but I do support some sort of path to citizenship.

There is a path to citizenship already in place: return to your country of citizenship, apply for an immigrant visa, apply for citizenship after lawfully residing in the USA.

Anything else is a blanket amnesty.

I really can't see how anyone can advocate legally immigrating people who ignore immigration law and don't see that as a problem.

[teufelhunden]

You must have America confused with a country that doesn't have only 12% union membership.

12% too high.

You made some mention in another post about how the auto bailout/loans were necessary to save manufacturing in this country. Why, pray tell, did the auto companies need help? Two problems: Leftover negative image from when their automobiles were in fact inferior to foreign vehicles and obscene union related costs. Between labor rates being out of line with the market, benefits being horribly expensive and above market, non-contributory pension plans, and the "jobs bank", costs added up. We all get it that GM/Chrysler/Ford agreed to the union contracts, but I used to be able to make my little brother agree to whatever I wanted too...

[CatoRockwell]

The problem is not immigration, it's socialism. America had a pretty open border policy for a very long time and it was never an issue. Thats because immigrants came here knowing that their success relied directly upon their own ingenuity and work.

The reason we are seeing a flood of deadbeats instead of people looking for opportunity, which would only make our country better, is because we have socialist policies in place that reward laziness. If there wasn't free school, medical care, welfare, etc... for these deadbeats, the only ones that would cross the border would be those looking to make a future for themselves and their families. The opportunity to become successful off of their own merits, that is the American Dream. I welcome anyone to this country in search of it.

We need to rid ourselves of socialism and that alone will fix the immigration issue.

[Soopa Villain17]

maybe we should have an alien hunting season , bag limit per person should be 3500.

[SCpoloRicker]

maybe we should have an alien hunting season , bag limit per person should be 3500.

See, if this was trolling, I could get behind it. I mean, you could take this and publicly comment on cnn.com - and you'd get tons of bites. But, I'm pretty sure, this isn't trolling.

[drg]

You made some mention in another post about how the auto bailout/loans were necessary to save manufacturing in this country. Why, pray tell, did the auto companies need help? Two problems: Leftover negative image from when their automobiles were in fact inferior to foreign vehicles and obscene union related costs.

Actually 100% of the reason was the poor market for products, which is not a labor issue at all. It's a corporate/management issue.

Even taking into account the legacy costs (which are absorbed by the government in countries like Japan), the cost of labor on a new American vehicle is only about 10%. This did not adversely affect costs, as American cars were routinely cheaper than imported cars. The market for them simply was not there because American companies were not offering what people needed or wanted. It is arguable that the refusal of the (conservative) government to strengthen efficiency standards is largely to blame.

Without legacy costs, the cost of labor for domestic and import cars is close to comparable.

Today you see that Toyota is not the paragon of manufacturing prowess as it was made out to be in the days when the right was busy demonizing the big 3 and the UAW.