Official price for the ShoeBox compressor will be 390 dollars

**AGD** · 05-26-2010, 08:59 AM

That was the official announcement. On the side, I tried like hell to get the price into the low 300's but it just wasn't possible. The darn thing weights over 20 lbs just in material alone. I was not going to plate the small sheet metal parts to save a buck but they would have rusted almost immediately and my sheet metal guy talked me out of it.

The forces on the crankshaft during the pump stroke are over 100 lbs at full pressure. I worked on several ideas on how to assemble the crankshaft parts by bolting them together but they never held up over the long term. I said "screw it, we will weld the damn things" so they will NEVER come apart.

The auto shut off was a killer. It was about 100 bucks to buy a 4500 psi pressure shut off. That wouldn't do so I came up with this lever-bump arrangement. It didn't work well until I gave in and put two actual ball-bearings in the mount (you can't see them in the pics).

So as you can see, I started from the bottom and worked my way up to give you the best value possible. I am sure there will be many aftermarket ups and extras that people will come out with. One good one should be changing the sprockets and chains out for cog belts which would make it quieter (but at a cost).

We are working hard to assemble the first batch now and after we threw away 3500 parts and redesigned them, things are going well. From here I will order the parts for the next batch but that will take at least 8 weeks. Thanks for your patience.

AGD

**Brewtt** · 05-26-2010, 09:13 AM

Sweet... I'll order one as soon as they're released. My team will test the heck out of this thing.

**garbageman705** · 05-26-2010, 09:14 AM

Hi, I am very excited about this product. I WILL be getting one. I did want to know if there is a possibility that the compressor could be set to shut off at 3000 and 4500 respectively. I don't think 390 is too high a price for what you are getting. From what I understand this will fill a scuba in 48 hours and a 68 4500 in 6 hours approximately?

Good to have you back in paintball.

**xero28** · 05-26-2010, 09:16 AM

A couple of questions for you Tom:

- Is this the "out the door" cost?

- From what I understand, other than the compressor, we will just need a 4500 psi rated hose/fitting to attach to the tank. Is this correct? If so, would we be able to purchase that from you or could you point us in a good direction to find one?

I think that's it for now. As always, thanks for your hard work and dedication in seeing this one through. Really looking forward to having one of these.

**AGD** · 05-26-2010, 09:29 AM

I do not supply a hose to connect the compressor to your tank.

If I offered a hose it would have to use all rated fittings and hoses and would cost more than you would be willing to pay. I am sure once they are out, other customers will come up with links on where you can get good deals on the hose etc.

Besides that you will need a shop compressor. We recommend the oiless type which in many cases can be bought for less than 70 bucks.

AGD

**mpsd** · 05-26-2010, 09:39 AM

Tom,

Congrats again for the initiative and for being able to come up with something revolutionary after so long. I'm sure you will have great success on this and hope to have you around more often now that you are working with paintball related products again.

Also, just to complete Xero28's comments, I believe it would be really nice if you could assemble a list of compatible shop compressors, as well as a spec list or minimum requirements for it. As an IT professional, I'm really used to this kind of thing and I trully believe it helps a lot for a customer when he's assembling your product for the first time.

At last, I remember you saying that it would work even without the shop compressor. Only thing is that it would take 3 or 4 times longer to fill up the tank. Is it correct?

Thanks again, glad to see you comming back and best wishes of luck,

Mendel.

PS: Unfortunatelly, as I still don't know when will I be able to go to US again, I'll probably have to wait for the second batch to get mine

. But believe me, it's a top priority on my list!

**El Camino** · 05-26-2010, 09:39 AM

AGD[/QUOTE]
I am sure there will be many aftermarket ups and extras that people will come out with. One good one should be changing the sprockets and chains out for cog belts which would make it quieter (but at a cost).

Tom, would the belt drive be something you might offer, once everything gets going smooth?? I'm all into upgrades and accessories. Thanks for all your hard work on making the Shoebox(and those that helped you)!

**shives007** · 05-26-2010, 09:46 AM

OK, that means I have cash to buy other toys at LL3. I was all set to hand Tom an envelope and head home with one. I'm on the list, so hopefully I'll get mine in due time.

Shives

**AGD** · 05-26-2010, 10:10 AM

Shhhhh don't tell anyone..... IF your an AO member, and you can convince me that you know your way around a crankshaft, AND you bring CASH....I MIGHT be able to "fit you in".

I am specifically looking for people that will not wine and ***** if something goes bad. The longer you have been hanging out here, the better chance I know your forum name. That will help convince me to sell you one. For instance, the chains stretch as a normal part of breaking in. If you can't look at this product and figure out how to tension the chains, I don't want to sell you one from the first batch.

AGD

**Smoothice** · 05-26-2010, 10:15 AM

Hey Tom. Just in case someone shows up and says "Hey I'm smoothice, here's my money" It really isn't me. I won't be there

Not that you'd recognize my name anyways...

**DevilMan** · 05-26-2010, 10:27 AM

I have an idea for a chain tensioner sir...

I'll get it to you in the next few days..

DM

**skipdogg** · 05-26-2010, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by AGD

If you can't look at this product and figure out how to tension the chains, I don't want to sell you one from the first batch.

AGD

this comment probably excludes me, however my teammates are more mechanically inclined. I think at this point the crap tables at the empress on thursday night will determine if I get one this weekend..

**DevilMan** · 05-26-2010, 10:45 AM

Hey TK, I sent a quick not to Beemer so he can forward it to you....

It's simple in theory and should be just as simple in execution....

Let me know,

DM

**LiqTenExp** · 05-26-2010, 10:49 AM

Sounds like you are looking for an engineer, who may or may not work in the aerospace industry, who is very mechanically inclined, a gear head, paintball fanatic, can take apart an autococker and put it back together blind folded (ok thats pushing it but...), and may know a thing or two about chains and sprockets from working on and owning motorcycles?

If so I know a guy. :)

Official price for the ShoeBox compressor will be 390 dollars